French era
It is actually a fact that St-Augustine was established by the French and then the Spaniards came and kicked them out since they were too close to Mexico.
In fact, as the text shows, they were two attempts by the French to establish themselves in Florida but they failed because they were attacked by Spain. It is common that everything is done to provide understatement of the French attempts of colonizations in America. -- Preceding unsigned comment added by 142.162.192.109 (talk) 00:17, 6 April 2013 (UTC)
Klan Attack on Hayling
I added a short description of the Klan attack on Dr. Hayling and 3 other NAACP activists. For some reason someone had deleted an previous description of this incident which is well known in St. Augustine and is considered a significant event in the town's civil rights history. Brucehartford (talk) 16:27, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
Language Related to "Oldest" Title
216.240.0.28 edited the article to change the phrase, "is the oldest" to "claims to be the oldest". This wording insinuates that St. Augustine is not the oldest continually occupied European settlement in the United States, or that there is no proof that it is. Barring some evidence to the contrary, St. Augustine is the oldest continually occupied European settlement in the territory of the United States. When a claim has no opposition and can be supported by fact, it simply is... it doesn't "claim to be". NamcoFL 04:52, Sep 7, 2004 (UTC)
Ramparts
Word on the street is that St. Augustine has the only surviving ramparts in the United States. Anyone kknow if it's true? --Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.41.163.240 (talk) 21:46, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
Wikify
I think this page needs to be Wikified - there probably are plenty of items in the article that can be linked, but I'm not familiar enough to do it. --Bubba73 19:45, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
Oldest?
Hi. I've spent most of my life knowing of St. Augustine as the place in what became the United States to have been continuously inhabited by Europeans and their descendants longer than any other place. I've just come across something strange, though, that makes me wonder. If you go to www.desotocavernspark.com and click on "History" at the left and then click on the "Hernando DeSoto & USA's oldest city" subsection (at the left, but not so far left), you'll find these words:
What else do we know about this claim? Is it, indeed, "a matter of fact"? I'm quite curious. President Lethe 03:38, 3 April 2006 (UTC)
St. Augustine is the oldest contiunously inhabited by Europeans, Desoto did not have Europeans supply there needs as a settlement and so it can't be said that it was or were ever continuously inhabited why? Because the last of Desoto expedition end up in Mexico, now as far as oldest if you say just having Europeans in the area then, well what about Brandton Florida? and the Tampa bay area their are proof that there are Desoto's still here.
Now as far as Puerto Rico it is not a state of the U.S. just a territory and not inhabited in the U.S. north American. The real place is Jaxs Florida and fort caroline before S. A. because after the French the spanish were there. -- Preceding unsigned comment added by Ffulghum (talk o contribs) 18:26, 22 November 2012 (UTC)
Childersburg, AL
The history of Childersburg tries to build its claim as the oldest settlement: http://childersburg.qscend.com/content/108/default.aspx. However even if it could be proved that Robles and Feryada had descendants (which the article doesn't) there are several flaws with the argument. Any descendants are clearly identified as Indians by the 1832 treaty, and there seems to be no direct continuancy of settlement.The article itself says:
That doesnt mean that it was the same settlement, just that the village was close to the present town. To prove continuancy of settlement someone would need to explain the name change at Childersburg at the least. St. Augustine has been continously inhabited by Europeans and thier descendant since its founding. Even at the low point, when the Spanish handed it over the British, at least one Spanish citizen stayed on after the British arrived providing continuancy.
Faulty Image?
In the image, "St. Augustine in 1760, while under Spanish control," large hills or mountains can be seen in the background. I live in St. John's County, and there are certainly no hills of this size. Is this really an image of St. Augustine?
I would just like to say I live in St. John's, and that there are no Mountains anywhere in Florida Kenny51194 01:15, 24 July 2007 (UTC)
Tom Petty in St. Augustine???
When did he ever live there? Far as I know, he grew up in Gainesville, then moved to California. A citation of some sort would be nice. --Ebyabe 18:34, 27 November 2006 (UTC)
Tom Petty did, at one time, own a house on the beach in Crescent Beach, some miles south of St. Augustine. On a reasonably regular basis he ate at the "Sonny's" barbecue restaurant in St. Augustine on US 1 South. They used to ask him to sign his bills, which they used to attach to the wall near the cash register. But to the best of my knowledge, as a thirty year resident, he never lived in St. Augustine proper.Annodomini1923 03:52, 3 December 2006 (UTC)
The Tom Petty house was on Atlantic View Avenue in the Anastasia Hills, just north of historically black Butler Beach area--ironically just down the street from the house at 5480 Atlantic View which was rented for Dr. Martin Luther King in the summer of 1964 and then promptly shot up and firebombed by racists. The Petty House was shingled, and used to sport a sign saying "Buy American," as I recall. I heard he lost it to his wife in a divorce. It is still standing, though. As to whether it's in St. Augustine, all the places down there (and beyond) have a St. Augustine address, so I think it's fair to include it. --[Historian]March 2009 --Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.106.142.79 (talk) 21:50, 14 March 2009 (UTC)
Older continuously-inhabited American Indian cities in the USA [?]
The article states that St. Augustine, Florida is the oldest continously-inhabited European settlement in the United States of America.
Is the word "European" necessary? As far as I'm aware, the only continuously-inhabited American Indian cities which survive to this day, are located in Mexico and Peru; and not in any U.S. jurisdiction.
I'm not as learned about American Indian history as I would like to be, so if any of you are aware of older American Indian settlements in the USA, please feel free to respond, as it might result in more content, and relevant information for the article.
Pine 18:41, 4 May 2007 (UTC)
I think it is a useful distinction, even if there are no other continuously occupied cities within the Continental United States. This is because European migration and occupation is a significant historical occurrence. The status of other, perhaps older, continuously occupied cities or settlements could be given parenthetically, indicating whether they do or do not exist. --Preceding unsigned comment added by Alan.A.Mick (talk o contribs) 16:36, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
Oldest Schoolhouse
is located here?!!! 84.56.11.242 09:34, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
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Corrupt City
Why does the Saint Augustine page keep getting edited? Everytime someone posts something about the current battle between local artists and the city commission, it is edited off the site within minutes. If someone is allowed to post information on the City's racial discrimination, why can't someone post an article on the corrupt city commission, the violation of constitutional rights, or the rising homeless population? Buddychrist1 04:18, 19 October 2007 (UTC)
Barry Barnett, Notable Resident?
This one kinda borders on self-promotion. Keeping in mind that what constitutes notability isn't simply the threshold of google hits (particularly for a commercial operation where web presence is cultivated) I would like to hear opinions regarding keeping or deleting Barry Barnett as a notable resident. My personal opinion is that he isn't --LoverOfArt 02:55, 1 December 2007 (UTC)
James Brock photographs
--Does anyone know where I can find a link to the photographs of James Brock pouring muriatic acid into the pool with black and white protesters? --ShadowCrew (talk) 21:46, 3 August 2008 (UTC)
--There's a photo of Brock's redefinition of "Southern Hospitality" with this 2000 article about the effort to make the Monson, an important American civil rights landmark, disappear. As one city staffer said "We don't want to preserve THAT history." --Historian, March 2009
[[1]]"Civil Rights Landmark May be Razed." _______________________________
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Strange Rendering
Is this only happening to me? The two images under the infobox are shifted way over to the right making the page too big to be seen on one screen (I have to slide over to the right to see the two images). I can't figure out how to fix it. Tex (talk) 16:54, 7 November 2008 (UTC)
"Civil Rights movement" section
There is a flag on this section disputing its neutrality, but I don't see any discussion on this page. I think the main problems with this section are its tone or style (too many superlatives) and of citations from reliable sources. It could also be shortened and made easier to read. -- Rob C. alias ????o? 20:39, 3 April 2009 (UTC)
"Continental U.S."?
I can see that the opening for this article has had some discussion in the past, so rather than just jumping into the article, I thought to bring it up here (on the 444th birthday of St. Augustine!). Right now the article has the sentence:
This is pretty much a quote from the Nat'l Historic Landmark program info. The phrase "continental United States" seems wrong to me. I image it was used to exclude San Juan and other settlements in Puerto Rico -- which is a territory, rather than the United States proper (i.e. 50 states + D.C.) -- but it also implies that there are older European settlements in Hawaii or Alaska (which I cannot imagine to be the case). Of course there are logical issues with categorizing Alaska apart from "continental" as well. -- Eoghanacht talk 16:46, 28 August 2009 (UTC)
"Sir Francis Drake"
The right word is not "privateer" but corsaire or pirate.
Oldest??
Our article on Annapolis_Royal,_Nova_Scotia says that Annapolis Royal is "the oldest continuous European settlement in North America, north of St. Augustine, Florida."
Our article on St. Augustine says it's "the oldest continuously occupied European-established city and port in the continental United States."
It seems that the "continental United States" part could even be expanded to "continental United States and Canada" ? Is there an older European settlement in Hawaii or Alaska? Continental Mexico? --Sonjaaa (talk) 18:18, 18 January 2011 (UTC)
File:Replicas of the Medici lions at the Bridge of Lions .jpg Nominated for speedy Deletion
Hello I thought I would give you a heads up that I will be making an entry regarding the time period of 1605 into this page. This was known as the "Period of Friendship". Great job you all have done with this page, I look forward to bringing some more meaningful content to it. I love St.Augustine --Ourhistory153 (talk) 12:48, 29 September 2011 (UTC)
Invite to Viva Florida 500
I'd like to invite fellow Wikipedians interested in Florida history to join in our new project page for celebrating our state's 500th anniversay at Viva_Florida_500 Please review and join in getting this project off the ground. It's more than just about Ponce de Leon and his landing it is also about other cultures and what new content we can bring into Wiki such as adding new information about the Native Cultures that were here when this period of discovery began.--Ourhistory153 (talk) 14:26, 2 October 2011 (UTC)
Names of historic society
These are the foreign language names of the St. Augustine Historical Society, from the tourist brochures:
- French: L'Association Historique de St. Augustine
- Japanese: ???????????????
- Spanish: Sociedad de Historia de San AgustÃn
WhisperToMe (talk) 16:46, 12 March 2012 (UTC)
Native Americans
No pre European history section...Indians are mentioned in the article not specifically at least in the introduction to the history section..most Wikipedia articles do in US place sections. 66.177.244.25 (talk) 03:34, 7 March 2015 (UTC)
Gunshot death of Michelle O'Connell
Someone has put an opinionated argument for the Michelle O'Connell suicide. It does not belong in the History of St. Augustine or even in the history. If you want to fight that battle go to other more appropriate places. The sources cited have theories but the facts are it was ruled and still is considered a suicide after being examined by multiple agencies and multiple State Attorneys and Medical Examiners... Not the place for your argument.. -- Preceding unsigned comment added by Wildthang22 (talk o contribs) 22:02, 28 April 2015 (UTC)
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